7 steps to improve your FOREHAND LOOP (with Ferenc Horvath)

7 steps to improve your FOREHAND LOOP (with Ferenc Horvath)


The racket’s position should be under the
ball because we need to counter the backspin effect. A common error is to do an
automatic backswing which creates a big distance from the from the ball and the
incoming angle is just way too flat to execute a brush upwards. So the start
position will be really deep. We need to keep a low lean down upper body position.
We need to bend the right knee as much as we can and we lower the racket’s
position. Not way below the table but below the ball. When you execute your forehand opening
up loop, you need to start swinging from the underarm and wrist. This is what
can be accelerated the fastest. This is much faster than your shoulder
could ever be. So you can avoid a general mistake of swinging your arm up using
your shoulder muscles. That should be avoided. Make sure that you swing up your
wrist and elbow and if it’s accelerated into a certain speed it will take your
arm up. In general, when it is heavy backspin
and the arc is very low you need to open up quite lot so you are able to brush the side of the ball When you start swinging up your wrist and
elbow you need to make sure that you don’t slap your elbow up and that you
don’t rotate the racket angle. Rotating the racket angle could end up different
contact points on the ball and it will alter the trajectory of your loop.
So you pick your open angle and through almost the very end of your
forehand loop you keep it same angle. You need to follow through with your
shoulder, so you could tell the ball much better where it should go,
to where it should land. And the end is somewhere here up at your forehead. and beware not to cross it to the left shoulder, because you would
create a lot of side spin instead of topspin which will not be useful against
heavy chop balls. So you make sure that you work on your right side without
crossing the racket at your face. One thing that could stop you having a good relaxed shoulder support is keeping the racket
too close to the body. Everyone can try pulling the racket in. It makes your
shoulder pretty useless. You will not feel any possibility to support your
your loops. So you need to make sure that you’re looping action is quite far from
the body and then you get a really released and relaxed shoulder action. You need to try to execute the forehand
opening up loop on the ball’s arcs highest point. In case you get
heavy backspin, this is pretty much close to the table. So most of the time the ball’s
highest point is at the end of the table and right after that it’s falling
down quite fast. So one of the most common mistake is that you take too much
distance from the table. Make sure you hug the table. You can be really close.
You take your position – most likely your left foot is under the table –
it’s totally alright – and your body is rotated out and pointing away to the
right. The highest point will be just in front of you. This is
what we want. The forehand wrist and elbow
action should be pretty much maximized. So there is no room
to slow it down. If you slow it down you lose speed, you lose spin. So the forehand
wrist elbow action should be pretty much as fast as possible. The key to get enough power is how your body weight and shoulder adds on into the
action. You need much more force being transferred inside from the right leg
which sends the body weight in towards the opponent, creating a little extra
power towards the direction you want to play. We don’t use raw power. We
use the same technique. We don’t slap the shoulder up – it doesn’t help – but the
whole weight transfer and the hip rotation should be faster. So the average
power topspin looks like this. The force is applied upwards. In case you want
more power, you need to keep the speed and you need to be faster and much more
dynamic with your hip and your knees. If you want to hit a
little more aggressive with your topspin don’t change the angles, don’t change the
shoulder power. The power comes from the technique. You need a released elbow
and wrist, really relaxed shoulder and then you need to maximize your rotation.

34 thoughts on “7 steps to improve your FOREHAND LOOP (with Ferenc Horvath)

  1. I am really weak at forehand and backhand chop and push . Can you please give me some tips or make a video for this .
    I will be very greatful.

  2. I was struggling where to end and how to get more spin. This video solves it all! Thanks a lot both of you. Looking forward to watch next awesome training clips.🏓

  3. Very good video. But the problem to me is that I have a slow paddle and it's harder for me to lift the ball when it has backspin. (Especially heavy backspin)

  4. Tom or Ferenc. question for ya. Ferenc says to (consistently) maximize speed of the stoke and keep the bat angle consistent. So…if someone feed you balls with lots of backspin vs just a little backspin…what varies in how to successfully get each of these back over the net in a forehand loop?

  5. Tom, I love how you are able to bring other people to explain certain areas of the game. This session was really good, Horvath brought some clear points across. I thought I saw all there is to see in terms of youtube forehand loop, but now I'm happy you did this video

  6. Thank you Tom and Ferenc for great demo. and explanation on the topspin loop.
    This will really help me to achieve more consistent returns.

  7. Difficult part is in real game opponent push every where with different length and spin so it is very hard to 3rd ball attack consistently.

  8. Hi Tom great video quick question have you done a video or have a link about putting either olive oil or baby oil on your bat to rejuvenate the tackiness of the rubber. Or do you have any general advice on this please thank you

  9. Very good explanation on the forehand loop technique, but when I see top ranked Chinese players, their loop start out with elbows straight with arms extended back and elbows bent a moment before contacting the ball, generating more contact speed. In other words, their swing is much bigger from start to finish. I think this is the difference between Western style and Asian style. What is your take on my opinion?

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